Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): Hello everyone.
One.
It's me, Dr.
Zike, and thank you for tuning into another episode of More Than Medicine.
I am super, super excited to welcome today's guest.
Not only is a personal friend of mine, but he's a respected
healthcare leader and advocate.
He's known for advancing collaboration and innovation across hospitals and health
systems throughout the state of Illinois.
Please welcome president and CEO of the Illinois Health and
Hospital Association AJ Wilhelm.
Me, aj, thank you so much for joining me.
This is so great.
AJ Wilhemi: Yeah, I'm really excited about our time together today.
Thanks for the invitation.
Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): Awesome.
Awesome.
So as we usually do, we like to get a little feel for our guests and understand
a little bit about their journey.
That's kind of grounding to get a peak of how people got to where they
are and, you You're interesting.
You didn't begin your career in healthcare.
You actually started in, in law And in public service.
So can you walk us through what kind of drew you into
healthcare policy and advocacy?
AJ Wilhemi: Yeah, happy to.
It's funny, you'll get a kick out of this.
Originally gonna follow my dad and go into dentistry.
And then I realized you have to be good in math and science,
to get into dental school.
So after my freshman year at Loyola, Chicago, I started taking courses
that I really enjoyed, like English and speech, political science.
And, And during my junior year, I thought, okay, practicing law would, be a good
fit for my interests and my skillset, which definitely wasn't math and science.
so I enrolled at Chicago Ken College of Law.
And graduated in the early nineties.
And then after law school, I decided to go back home, to my hometown
of Joliet to practice law and Dr.
Eke.
About 10 years into my law practice, I was appointed to the state Senate,
to represent the Joliet area.
and a few years later, about halfway through my seven years in the state
senate, I, I left the law firm and joined.
A healthcare consulting firm, mere consultants at the time.
Now it's Advers.
I had the pleasure of meeting and working with a young lawyer
by the name of Bob Morgan, who's now an outstanding state rep.
And, I'd say it was about four years later, in late 2011, when I received
a call from a search firm asking if I'd be interested in, applying for
the government relations job with the Illinois Hospital Association.
And I knew, my political career was keeping me away from my
family, especially on weekends.
Pretty good experience working with IHA and knew it was a
topnotch trade association.
So I was very interested in, the GR job with, IHAI applied And the next thing
I know, I'm meeting with the president and CEO at the time, Mary Jane Wirth.
She offered me the job a month later and and I started
with IHA in February of 2012.
And I gotta say Mary Jane was an incredible boss and mentor, still a dear
friend, and I can't thank her enough for the opportunity she gave me, back in 2012.
And I also.
Wanna give a shout out to our former state controller, Dan Hines,
who gave my name, to Roger Quick and his executive search firm.
And if it weren't for Dan and Mary Jane, I wouldn't be celebrating my, 14
year anniversary with IHA next month.
And I wouldn't be talking with you today, Dr.
Zika.
So it's been a great honor and a privilege, to serve and represent Illinois
Hospitals, for these almost 14 years now.
Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): That's amazing.
Congratulations on your 14 years and just thank you.
I have seen and worked with you on.
Both sides, both as the, director of IDPH and now as a hospital leader.
So, thank you so much for your advocacy.
We really appreciate working with you.
So given that really wonderful background and being, a member of
the general Assembly, tell me how that specific experience helped shape
your understanding of the connection between policy decisions, in Springfield
and health outcomes in community.
AJ Wilhemi: it's a great question, and to be honest, I didn't lead on healthcare.
Policy issues during my time in the state Senate.
I, but I will say that, serving on the Judiciary committee And then
later, being chair of that committee, that experience was helpful in
terms of, working through complex legislation, complex legal policies.
And I'll never forget just one example, I was chairing the committee
hearing, on the bill to abolish the death penalty in Illinois.
And then State Senator Cume Raul, was the sponsor of that bill and, Of
course he engaged with the committee And the committee chair and many
stakeholders on that complex issue.
I learned, throughout my time in the Senate how it's so important to understand
not only the words on the page, but the implications of these policy issues.
So, in my time on the judiciary committee, while we didn't take up many
healthcare issues, there is a corollary.
In terms of the complexity of legal policy with its many components And
the complexity of healthcare policy and, and all of its components.
So, I also wanna say that my time, in healthcare consulting was very helpful.
it really was valuable training ground to learn about healthcare
policy, our healthcare delivery system, key reimbursement issues,
all of which are quite complex.
So my time in the Senate.
My time with the healthcare consulting firm.
I think that was really good training ground, for my opportunity at IHA.
Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): I love to mentor young people, and I'm always telling
them that no experience is ever wasted.
It's just you're building and building expertise that you don't know how
you'll use it in the future, but it always comes together to benefit.
the older you with all that experience under your belt.
AJ Wilhemi: Yes.
Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): so tell me, so you represent more than it, is
it two 11 more than 200 hospitals?
I think it's maybe two 10 now.
I don't know.
across, very different communities, right?
We have critical access hospitals, the rural hospitals.
We have academic, medical centers And we have public hospitals, government
hospitals, And we have safety net hospitals, rehab hospitals, psych
hospitals, a lot of different hospitals.
I wanna focus, surprise, surprise on safety net hospitals.
from your vantage point, why are safety net hospitals so critical to the
overall state of health for Illinois?
AJ Wilhemi: There's no question that.
Our safety net hospitals like, Sinai, Chicago, and year three hospitals.
our safety nets play a unique, I would say, and critical role really in
serving their vulnerable communities.
And when I think about our safety net hospitals, they care for a significant
number of Medicaid beneficiaries, as you know, And also uninsured
and underinsured individuals.
they serve as, critical access points for behavioral healthcare.
Trauma care, maternal healthcare, chronic disease management, and they care for
people regardless of their ability to pay.
also, I'd like to say that, safety in hospitals like Mount Sinai and Holy Cross,
are deeply rooted in their communities.
You know, I know Mount Sinai has been serving the west side of Chicago for
over 100 years, and Holy Cross, I think, is gonna be celebrating its centennial
And in a couple years, and that's not.
Unique to your hospitals, right?
Most safety hospitals have been in their communities for a hundred plus years.
So they understand the social, economic and structural factors
that really shape, health outcomes.
whether that's housing instability or food insecurity, violence.
they design care models and support structures that really reflect those
realities One other key point I wanna raise is, most of our safety
hospitals are financially strained and they've had to take a hard look
at, what services they can provide.
They've had to look at reducing their workforce to make ends meet.
and there's a ripple effect here that's felt across the entire healthcare
continuum from, You emergency rooms.
To public health systems, as you certainly know, Dr.
Zika.
So we know many of our safety net hospitals are having difficult
conversations internally about, how they can continue to meet
the needs of their communities.
And many of them are involved, in the healthcare transformation collaboratives
that IHA supported a few years ago.
And, and those collaboratives really involve.
The notion of partnerships, and you mentioned many of our members, we
have a diverse constituency, safety net hospitals, academic medical
centers are involved in those collaboratives along with FQHCs
and other community organizations.
And really the goal is, how to ensure access to the right care.
You know, at the right time And in the right setting to achieve
the best possible outcomes.
so at the association, you know, we know that viable safety in hospitals are
critically important for the communities they serve, And also for the entire,
healthcare ecosystem in Chicago And in vulnerable communities across the state.
So we're very fortunate to have, outstanding leadership in our safety
and hospital community and, and certainly, that includes you, Dr.
Zika.
Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): Thank you for that.
we are, a special bump.
we all need healthcare, and every community needs it.
And so I just thank you for lifting up that, critical nature
of the Safety Net Hospital.
So given, How critical they are, but also thinking about the changes that
are happening in the federal healthcare policy, that's gonna significantly
impact, well all hospitals across the country, all hospitals in Illinois,
but particularly safety nets.
So what are the biggest threats that you are seeing from your perspective?
AJ Wilhemi: Yeah, as we think about, our work, with our membership and
you mentioned it, we have a diverse.
Constituency of hospitals.
we work very closely with our safety net hospitals on a number of key
policy issues, And we have a safety net hospital constituency section.
As you know, you're very engaged with that.
I also have one-on-one conversations with our safety net hospital leaders,
so we try to make sure that we're, taking that feedback and building that
feedback into our policy and advocacy.
Uh, the, way we structure our priorities And we wanna make sure that we're meeting
the needs of all of our hospitals.
All of our hospitals are facing challenges, and of course, the unique
challenges of our safety net hospitals.
And so at the federal level, the one big beautiful bill act, which we can talk
about today, And the trillion dollars in Medicaid cuts nationally over the next 10
years, we're gonna see about $48 billion.
and lost federal matching funds, over the next 10 years here in Illinois.
so we know that that's a significant threat at the federal
level here at the state level.
we've gotta continue to maintain, adequate funding under the Medicaid program.
We've gotta make sure we're doing everything we can, to address
workforce challenges and I can get into some specifics about that.
And then of course, you know, three 40 BI know that's very
important to Sinai Chicago.
And we have a piece of legislation at the state level, to make sure that,
pharmacies can't restrict you on how many, local pharmacies that you
can use to disperse those three 40 b discounted drugs to your patient's.
So Those are just a few of the, key policy issues that we're working,
uh, collaboratively with our entire membership, but also, with our
safety net hospitals because we know.
the unique challenges that you face And caring for your vulnerable community.
So I hope that gives you a little bit of a flavor of some of those
key, threats and, challenges that we see at the policy level.
Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): Those are, they're very real.
We think about them every day.
But you also mentioned some of the things that are happening, so we can't be a.
moan and groan and gloom and doom type of, people we have to be thinking about
what are the strategies that we can, move forward with to actually make sure
that we continue working closely with IHA to sustain care and even more than
sustain care, actually improve health outcomes and, and reduce inequities.
I can name lots of things that you personally with IHA, have done, on behalf
of hospitals and, especially safety nets.
But tell us, take a minute to brag and, and wave your flag of some of
the great things that you've done or doing and are looking to do,
with And for safety net hospitals.
AJ Wilhemi: Yeah, thank you for the question.
And I'll tell you this.
First and foremost, we've been really engaged with our safety and
hospital community on finding ways to enhance Medicaid reimbursement.
So going back five or six years, we've been on this journey where,
Give you a couple examples.
The safety net add-on payment, we took that from $57 and 50 cents, up to $210.
so that was very important for our safety nets.
And then we worked very collaboratively with the administration, the
Pritzker administration, And we created this $50 million.
Tiered add-on payment, program.
in addition to the safety net add-on, we also, looked at opportunities
to enhance our hospital assessment program with safety net hospitals.
deriving about one-third of the net gain from our hospital assessment program,
to drive significant Medicaid funding.
For our safety and hospitals.
So that's one piece.
The other piece, that we know is very important is, state grants that, many
of our safety and hospitals really need to continue to fulfill their mission.
And that's been part of our, portfolio of advocacy priorities.
And then when you drill down, you know, look at what we've been able to do,
and your voice in this has been very important in educating legislators
about the flaws of certain policies.
Mandatory nurse staffing ratios.
We have a statute in Illinois Nurse Staffing by patient acuity,
and that's the approach that our hospitals are taking and it's working.
So we don't need rigid ratios here in Illinois, like they did
in California that had no benefit in terms of quality and outcomes.
to your point, I'd end on this, that we created a committee
on health disparities in 2010.
Again, you're very engaged with that, to address, opportunities for us as
a hospital community, to really drill down and identify opportunities,
to advance optimal health for all.
and that's been really the charge of that group.
And we've made strides, you know, to address some of the inequities
that we know, need to be addressed.
So that's just a, sampling, but it really does start with making sure
our safe nets have the reimbursement they need, but then some of the other
regulatory and, key policy issues.
I mentioned a few, and I, would be remiss if I didn't mention how important our
three 40 B legislation is, and I know again, you've been actively involved
and there's a big rally, to get the word out about the importance of our three
40 B legislation coming up this Sunday.
Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): Yeah, and I just, again, I can't thank you or salute
you and IHA enough for just being there for these safety nets without these
tremendous, strides, these tremendous initiatives that you got over the
finish line, we know that many of our hospitals wouldn't be here today.
So we just thank you for this partnership And we thank you for just.
Really having a special eye also for the safety net and understanding
how critical our survival is to the whole healthcare ecosystem.
so as we think about all the great work you're doing, And then we also
look at the calendar and say, Hey, midterms are around the corner.
the politics of healthcare are, are actually more challenging
that they've been in the past.
So how is this gonna impact you?
How is this gonna impact IHAs advocacy and legislative agenda?
Both at the state level And the federal levels, you know, so
what are your priorities And what do you think is gonna happen?
AJ Wilhemi: There's no question that the politics around healthcare,
they're always interesting and I would agree with you that they continue
to become more and more challenging.
And we know that the stakes are very high as we gear up
for the 2026 midterm elections.
This is a consequential.
Midterm, for many, many reasons, both at the federal and state level,
but certainly at the federal level.
And one point I'd like to make about election year dynamics
is that, You know, they have an impact on the legislative process.
And let's just say that, the focus for incumbents really does
kind of shift to the political side and, and winning reelections.
So, we see more legislative activity during non-election years than in.
Even numbered election years, but they're still gonna do the people's
work, pass the state budget and advance important legislation, And we
certainly hope that they advance our three 40 b, bill And the House of
Representatives, this, spring session.
The other dynamic that, elections, really do draw attention to key
issues that are top of mind to voters And in this climate that.
Certainly includes access to affordable healthcare.
in fact, I think one member of our congressional delegation said in a
recent interview that healthcare is on the ballot in the 2026 midterms.
So we're continuing to focus our attention on, protecting access to care, addressing
affordability, supporting hospitals and caregivers that, you know, patient's in.
Communities rely on at the federal level.
There's no question that we gotta make sure policymakers understand the
implications of the one big beautiful Bill Act and how, funding reductions
in coverage losses will directly impact patient's and providers, especially in
our urban centers and rural communities.
So we're gonna be working closely with a ha on that strategy And then other key
policy issues, such as Medicare funding.
holding Medicare Advantage plans accountable, again, protecting
the three 40 B program at the federal level, at the state level.
We'll continue working closely with lawmakers in Springfield, as well
as the Governor's administration on our key advocacy priorities.
At the top of that list is passing our three 40 B legislation, house Bill 2371.
and as I said, the bill passed the Senate last May, and now it's in the house.
ready for action, but we continue to face an aggressive, well-funded effort
from the pharmaceutical industry that doesn't want this bill to pass.
So we're actively countering these efforts, through our engagement with
legislators and our FQHC partners have been terrific in this effort.
So.
In addition to three 40 B, you know, we want to continue to work to
hold the Medicaid MCOs accountable.
they like to engage in denials of services, denials of payment, And
then workforce is a key priority.
You know, last year we led the charge on legislation that would create,
the healthcare workforce task force.
That task force took effect January 1st.
And, it's gonna be charged with finding solutions to address workforce
shortages, addressing licensure delays and, workplace violence that occurs
in our hospitals each and every day.
So the politics, that's some of, our priorities.
And, we do expect, you know, a robust debate on healthcare policy in this
midterm, election year of 2026.
Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): I'll say, my friend, you have a lot of work ahead
of you, but we're really grateful that you're taking all this on.
And I know Sinai has directly benefited from most of all of your efforts.
So keep charging on.
So you have to tell me as you being the advocacy leader and.
And doing all this great work, what would you say that people
need to do to help, the community?
What does the community need to do to help protect and support the safety net
care in today's political environment?
Do you have any, advice for us to really share with community
in terms of what they can do?
AJ Wilhemi: Yeah, I really think, leaders such as yourself, Clinicians that work
at Mount Sinai and Holy Cross and Schwab, members of the community, the words that
come to my mind, are sustained engagement.
we need individuals, from our hospitals, leaders from our hospitals
and folks from the community, to really engage in a very impactful way.
And I'd say that, state level advocacy is more important than ever.
we know that lawmakers need to hear directly.
from members of the community as well as hospital leaders and
clinical teams, about the real life impact, of their policy decisions.
And the best way to advocate, and you do this so well, is to tell your
story, right clearly and convincingly and with passion, policy makers
respond to, stories and data, about.
Real-world impacts and how, many patient's would lose access to medications if
we lost the three 40 B program or, service lines that would have to be
reduced if these Medicaid cuts under the big beautiful bill act going.
effect, how many jobs are at-risk because of these pressures And then
ultimately what happens to communities when significant numbers of people
lose their healthcare coverage?
So these stories really help counter misinformation that's out there.
And they also underscore, you know, the programs like Medicaid and three 40
B, they're not abstract policy issues.
They're really lifelines, for hospitals, for providers, and
most importantly for patient's.
Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): Thank you so much.
I will remember that sustained engagement and really telling the
story and I don't know if I got to share it with you, aj, but spent all.
Almost seven months trying to find just the right words to tell
the story of the safety net, in a TEDx Arlington Heights talk.
I don't know if you got to see it, you gotta go see it if you haven't, but I
think it is part of that storytelling and really getting people to understand what's
at stake and how important, This is.
So I'm gonna ask you to share it with people as well, after
you look at it, because I think.
we've all gotta get more people engaged and understand how, the
plight of the safety net hospital will affect every hospital, not
just the safety net hospitals.
And so we all need to get behind this.
So as I try to wrap up, I'm trying to end with the interesting question,
like if you could wave that magic wand And change maybe one thing policy-wise
or, culturally, about how we think about healthcare, how we approach
healthcare here, and I guess not just Illinois, but in the country,
to make it more, just and equitable.
Like what would that be or what would be at the top of your wish wishlist.
AJ Wilhemi: Yeah, and you and I have had this conversation right,
about how do we, make sure that we do everything we can from a policy
and advocacy perspective to have.
Just an equitable healthcare system.
And I, I think it has to start with, every resident of our country,
certainly of our state, having access to affordable healthcare coverage.
that leads to having access to primary care, to specialty services,
behavioral healthcare, which we talk quite a bit about at the association.
Uh.
Access to prescription drugs, chronic disease management, all the services
needed, to result in each person being able to achieve their optimal health.
Now we know there are many other components that need to be addressed,
including, social determinants of health, like food insecurity, housing insecurity,
violence, employment opportunities.
But at the end of the day, if each resident had access to affordable
healthcare coverage And the full array of, necessary healthcare and social services.
I think we'd have healthier individuals, healthier families, and
ultimately, healthier communities.
Ngozi Ezike, MD (Host): Preach, preach.
Amen.
I appreciate that.
Oh my gosh.
Thank you so much again.
Thank you.
As, the leader of Sinai and.
Knowing specifically what you've done for Sinai and safety nets, and I know
that you, from my other role, I know how you've helped all hospitals, so thank
you for that challenging role that you feel to try to take care of everybody.
you are a, healthcare hero and I'm really grateful, to be partnered
with you again in this role.
And just thank you for your role in the state of Illinois.
And thank you for joining me today.
You are a very special guest and I'm so honored that you made time to join us.
Thank you for the incredible, um.
Words that you shared here, your leadership, your advocacy, and your
unwavering commitment to strengthening healthcare across Illinois and actually
even beyond our state's borders.
It's really making a difference in the lives of, millions.
So we're so grateful for your voice, your vision, and all that you do to advance the
health and wellbeing of our communities.
Thank you again for being with us on more Than Medicine.